About Win or Loose!!

Violet Peace, originally uploaded by CharlieBrown8989.

This is the answer I given to one of my fan's regarding win of Loose!!

your work quality is not depend on flickr Explore; it is depend on you yourself set

Your own goal.

keep learning ;

keep improving;

keep refinding;

keep innovating;

Keep creating;

Keep self-motivating;

Keep-Positive Thinking..etc.

Then You truly exploring your own future & defining the New Frontier.

Explore can be a very disturbing algorithm & made one crazy & hate flickr explore Algorithm.

As Lao Zi Said:

One should not have the heart & mind on "Win or Loose" ; one should have selfless & blend with Nature.

That is Dao & Theorem (Fa) In Nature!!

道 法 自 然

Update on Censorship Issue On flickr

Yahoo - flickr = Censorship

[I'm CEO of Zooomr]

Well it is with great disappointment that I found myself yet again a victim of censorship on Flickr. Early today while engaging in a debate about Flickr's recent censorship in Germany I had over a dozen of my comments permanently deleted out of a debate by Flickr staff.

You can see the references to my involvement in the debate here and here among other places.

It's ironic that of all places that Flickr would choose to censor me would be in a thread protesting their censorship. And without any warning even or explanation.

This is not the first time I've been censored by Flickr.

The points that I was making in my debate about censorship on Flickr had a lot to do with what I see as problems at Yahoo. The fact that their CEO is the highest paid CEO in the United States, the fact that Yahoo 2 days ago rejected an important shareholder proposal denouncing censorship. And yes this most recent issue of censorship where people in Germany can only access Flickr in "safe mode."

Now some might say that it's not right for me as a competitor to Yahoo to be critical of their practices. But let me point you to the screen shot above. It comes from Flickr employee Dunstan Orchard's public zipline on Zooomr. Dunstan and other Flickr employees have been on Zooomr disparaging our site for the past week. So to me it seems a tad hypocritical that when I legitimately object to censorship on Flickr that I would have my words censored, while Flickr staff seems to feel that it's perfectly appropriate to disparage Zooomr over at Zooomr.

It's not right. And what Flickr doesn't understand is that by censoring your critic you only make him stronger. I'm sure it's probably only a matter of time before I get kicked off of Flickr entirely. All my photographs destroyed and deleted as well. Over 40,000 comments from many good friends.

This is the difference though between me and flickr. When Dunstan and other Flickr employees disparaged Zooomr I let their words stand. Rather than censor them, I took the high road and did not. Meanwhile flickr continues to build a name for itself: Flickr = censorship. Silencing me will not change this and it's a sad state of affairs to see happen to the flickr that I once loved so much and that even now professes to "love me" on the little icon above my page.

Censorship is borne out of fear and weakness. This is something always to remember.

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My Comments is as follow:

I have been a supporter of flickr like TH all along. Although I have a Zooomr account, but I am not too active.

To me, These events are a history repeated by itself of flickr-Yahoo.

Yahoo - flickr = Yahoo!

TH is a user of flickr. However, flickr have the Supreme God & goddess. Whom decide who should be censored; block or deleted...etc.

I have experience that since Sept 29, 2005 till today.

To me flickr is a great photo management community, but over time the Power - politics seem to be happening in both internal & external which are the "customers".

If the management on the top is assuming the imperialism management or authoritarian style then e-gangsterism or e-hooliganism would born naturally.

TH is good heart by sounding out for flickr to improve. It means well & good. However, that is not really appreciated as my earlier experiences.

Perhaps it is the same as what I have been served & f-team God think that it is a threat to their existence.

Especially, TH have commented at his own flickr. Which they have the power to do what they want. Anytime a violating the TOS can just created. & then they can exercise their power.

flickr junior staffs messing at Zooomr site are totally un-professional in the web2.0 era.

In my opinion, Yahoo CEO Terry Semel should need to come forward to the front to assume the leadership to iron out those censorship issue including Germany, China, Hong Kong, Singapore, Korea & also those blockage, suspensions, deletions, harassments; oppressions; bully to the Yahoo customers..etc. before it is too late.

Yahoo Chief Terry Semel : Please Read: Flickr's new censorship system

The following is my comments With regards to

Flickr's new censorship system

Malingerlin

It is great of you to stand up for your rights!! & get the deserved response.

My Experience on flickr is right from the beginning in May 2005. My pro account was suspended because I have too many contacts.

I was accued for using scripts to make flickr members to knee down & become my contacts!!

The management team & the egangsters in the forum have using abusive XXXX language on the flickr Central forum & my sites to harrass, bully, oppressive....etc to both me & my daughter.


There is one quote, we voted you out you XXXX off, there is no human right for you here!!

I do notice that with the messengers & emails, all ganged up to against me & my daughter. Subsequently, those abusive & racist & ...were deleted by the team.

I have wrote to Terry Semel sent by Fedex, & called his office but no answer.

I am not even know what is NIPSA till later this year. But I do get feed back from contacts that my contacts are not able to views mysite or people search for "CharlieBrown8989"


Few months back, when one of my photo which is a macro shot, was deleted after nearly 250 comments, I then send a email to flickr team. the reply later they told me a unbelieable reply that, their record shown , I delete it myself.

I have never post any artsy nude till Mar 4th 2007 to conducts the flickr view rates & behaviourals Science.

Been brought up in a close society I know what is the do & don't in my mind.Especially on porn & frontal; genital parts. However, I was accued for posting frontal nudity & expose genital parts of a human body, which in the whole truth, I never be!!

Then my site is moderated & totally black out from public. After along appeal then now is OK. But the people search for "CharlieBrown8989" on flickr remains un founded.

On the experience of Rebekka, she is very fortunate to get covered by many blogs & internet medias, the most remarkerable is she get coverage
by BBC news.

Gail Orenstein case is a classic significant on the internet history among all, her account is totally deleted with over 1 millions views & over 15X testimonials. However, her case is not covered by the major news medias.

As a person having many years of experiences with fortune 100 corporations. I have ever seen the unbelievable events like these. But I did predicted that the internet would be experiencing the same as the happening in real life back in the early 90's.

Yahoo bought over flickr, infact there is no change on flickr management, as we all love flickr & the community that is why we are here, by voicing out is with the hope of the management should think possitively to improve rather then the negative feeling & thus the follow-up detrimental actions.

It is not only Yahoo senior management should reviews those happening, it is major search engines like MSN, Google & Alta-Vista alike to learn from the community as the masses are with the ecommunity.

It is the people who make an intiatives or business successful. Not the other way!!


[32] Posted by: Charlie C. Tan | May 19, 2007 9:43 PM